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Poster: He Live's Date: Nov 7, 2008 11:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Every Night at 7 and 11

i 100% agree with you.

i had the same experience a month or two ago, exactly, when i was first introduced to this VERY NICE SET.

but now, i am not really interested in hearing it again anytime soon.

but that WINTERLAND 78 DVD!!!! i have watched it two or three times already! and i just put it on again tonight! that really says something about something. it is TRUE. in most of my culture/media ingestion, i am RARELY, RARELY up for repeats. like, i watched a lot of seinfeld in you know, 91-95 (?) -- and after that period --- ugh, i couldn't stomach it. but now, 13 years later, i can watch it sometimes and really enjoy. then again, i watched a lot of cheers in those years (as repeats) and ick.... i could never watch that show again.


BOTTOM LINE: the original experience of being at a show, or just experiencing anything for the first time (aside from sex, and drugs) generally does not improve with age or "revisiting" (sex and drugs not excluded). or what i am trying to say is -- it really says something about a piece of music if it stands up to much repeated listening. in fact, like the acquisition of language i am fairly certain that, generally, as we age it gets harder and harder to form these deep emotional connections that lead us to crave wanting the same thing over and over. it is our nature to want something new. but it is rarer and rarer with age that a thing crosses the plane, and becomes something we get satisfaction out of revisiting again and again.

OR MAYBE it is just me. i am sure what i wrote above must not make any sense to anyone. i just have slight contempt for intentionally doing something over again when there is another option. this is ludicrous of course -- but also explains why i am a deadhead. i get to do the same thing over and over again with the slightest bit of variation each time -- and it is always JUST ENOUGH NEW. this of course, explains how THE DEAD play on our General, societal addiction to Addiction, the affliction of the working people of which they made a career entertaining. how do you keep at the grind without a little pick-me-up in the morning as it starts all over again, and a little put-me-down at night, when for an instant decompression is achieved.

THE DEAD played on that state of decompression, providing the perfect environment, soundtrack, vibe and moral stance to allow complete decompression. they were the same as us, normal working class type guys, but they were more -- they were the lucky ones, our heroes, who had transcended the malaise and addiction of normal life, and seemingly operated in a state of perpetual decompression. it was all a dream.....

Lord, the band kept us so busy
We forgot about the time....

No one's noticed, but the band's all packed and gone.
Was it ever here at all?


....... back to normalcy and the grind. so we look for something new somewhere else, until the carnival comes back to town. and the band rolls on, looking for its next audience -- the next chance to shine for a minute.






This post was modified by He Live's on 2008-11-08 07:21:04

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Poster: beijingscene Date: Nov 8, 2008 2:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

dear he live's (apostrophe wha?)

you may (or may not) be pleased to hear that what you wrote made perfect sense to me. i wonder if noam chomsky ever attended a dead show? (probably in all those years at m.i.t.). seriously, i grew up in the u.s.--started seeing jerry and the boys in the early 70s--then ended up on a foreign correspondent career track and have only been back stateside occasionally since. but every time i did come back i made sure to catch a dead concert. it was the most quintessentially "american" thing i could think of to do. mom, baseball, apple pie and the dead. sort of the way obama's story is quintessentially american. rags to spiritual riches (where the spirit goes matter will lead, per the dead's ironic profitability). i know i am preaching to the choir when i say what a gold mine this archive is. i can revisit concerts that i attended in the early 70s and try to remember.... i am a decent musician myself, and for my money the dead at that time are up there with any pop music ensemble ever assembled (again a highly subjective statement, but one i know most reading this will agree with). for me the spirit left with jerry, and jerry's spirit significantly left with the china white, but before the drugs took his youthful enthusiasm that was a band of angels. all a long-winded way of saying that i believe one thing we do when revisiting media is to try to recapture the divine inspiration that gave it life originally, and that happens for me with these old recordings. a related tangent: i just learned that watson and crick were experimenting with owsley product when they conceived of the double helix. bear's choice indeed-y.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Nov 8, 2008 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

hey beijing! (you there now?) thanks for hangin' in there with me.... it was a rambling kind of night :)


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Poster: beijingscene Date: Nov 8, 2008 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

if you can't guess who i am from my screenname then we probably don't know each other. i was katie miller's (of cajun pacific chuck and katie fame) duke class/housemate. after decades in the peoples replica of china, i am now back in sunny n.c. on my way to the duke-state football game right now. go devils!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 8, 2008 12:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

enjoy the game mr. savitt. btw, steve lehman was my first house guest out here in monterey at my current abode. just saw chuck, katie and the girls w/ pete durning in santa cruz a few weeks back.

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Poster: beijingscene Date: Nov 8, 2008 1:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

a bottle of chinese red sorghum grain alcohol for the winner! i just visited with steve up in connecticut, he's got a beautiful house on "old creamery road" upstate (how quaint). there is something healing about seeing steve planing doors, hitting his fingers with hammers and taking photos of baby raccoons. the woofpack's got us on the run, but i hope that won't last. plumlee looks strong, his youngest brother (high school soph?) has been at every game and the crazies have some chant to the tune of "plumlee brothers, 1, 2, 3...." but this is all off-topic....

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Poster: beijingscene Date: Nov 8, 2008 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

pat sajak: and the answer is....

"who is brian turlington?"

ding ding ding ding

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Poster: beijingscene Date: Nov 8, 2008 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Every Night at 7 and 11

oops, seem to have confused two posts. mea culpa! i was surfing the archive, seeking a soundtrack for starting my day's work, and came across your post. it really resonated with me on numerous levels. i agree with you strongly that one secret to the dead's success was the decompression you speak of. funny because when i was first posted to china (just after carter reestablished diplomatic relations), everyone was still wearing mao suits and the peoples communes were just being dismantled. i witnessed first hand that there is something to be said for socialism (of course it is easy to say that when you have a "get-out-of-jail-free" blue u.s. passport in your pocket). full employment (even if you are only qualified to sweep the streets), guaranteed housing, subsidized food, free medicine.... don't get me wrong, most people are motivated by self-interest and healthy competition gives rise to the most valuable innovations, but there is something to be said for people living with more equality and social justice and the simple things in life being more highly valued (e.g. free time for people to socialize, drink tea, talk, play music... it doesn't hurt when there is no t.v. or telephone to distract) . there is simply no need for the obscene wealth gap in the west and concomitant squeeze that leaves most real joe the plumbers sweating/scrimping/saving just to make ends meet. and therein lies the decompression desire/need you speak of, and what the more carefree time of the haight in its heyday represents. people were not meant to work this hard just to survive. i know there was a point here. hope you gleaned one. the wheel turns....